Pope Francis: All your base are belong to us

January 2, 2014
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The Marxist Pope:

One also sees the need for policies which can lighten an excessive imbalance between incomes. We must not forget the Church’s teaching on the so-called social mortgage, which holds that although it is lawful, as Saint Thomas Aquinas says, and indeed necessary “that people have ownership of goods”, insofar as their use is concerned, “they possess them as not just their own, but common to others as well, in the sense that they can benefit others as well as themselves”.

42 Responses to Pope Francis: All your base are belong to us

  1. Mildred Smith on January 2, 2014 at 8:39 am

    And 1,117,000 people think he’s infallible.

    • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 2, 2014 at 11:47 am

      Yeah, the guy grew up in a country with pathological crony capitalism and arrogant Big Government. Little wonder he is suspicious of free market economics.

      This part of his talk seems pretty solid.
      “[Pope Francis emphasized] to his audience of the faithful, Italians and tourists that “(w)e are part of the same human family, and we share a common destiny.”"

    • Ken_phd on January 2, 2014 at 1:19 pm

      Mildred Smith:

      “And 1,117,000 people think he’s infallible”

      The concept of infallibility applies only to the questions relating to Church doctrine, not political beliefs. As to the concept of sharing resources with the less fortunate, this is best handled by the Charity of individuals. Nothing Marxist about that concept.

      • Paul F. on January 2, 2014 at 2:59 pm

        Nothing Marxist about that concept.

        Likewise with the Pope’s comments.

  2. Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 2, 2014 at 9:32 am

    Info on corporate sponsors of the left.
    Are they buying protection? Or buying crony capitalist deals that will punish their competitors?
    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304858104579262653537151952?mod=WSJ_Opinion_AboveLEFTTop
    “the list of 58 corporate donors is revealing about the ways of the modern regulatory state. It certainly blows apart the myth that corporate America is “conservative” …
    Health insurers are there in force (eight), befitting their new role as public health utilities. That includes the insurance lobby, America’s Health Insurance Plans, whose silence amid the make-it-up-as-you-go start of the ObamaCare shows it is now essentially a business partner of the Obama Administration.”

    The list also includes Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, Citigroup, Apple, General Electric, Google, Facebook.

  3. Knighthawk on January 2, 2014 at 2:52 pm

    It’s – All your base *are* belong to us. /just saying

  4. Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 2, 2014 at 3:43 pm

    A news item that I had missed.
    What’s next? Illegals appointed as judges?
    Lawyers are supposed to uphold and obey the law in their personal life. They are checked for stuff like arrests, moving violations and the like when considered for admission to the bar. And they are removed from the bar if caught lying under oath (see “Bill Clinton”). So…one wonders how an illegal qualifies for a law license since he is obviously violating at least the immigration laws.
    http://twitchy.com/2014/01/02/nbc-illegal-immigrant-granted-law-license-in-california/

  5. Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 2, 2014 at 4:22 pm

    Another detail to watch as ObamaCare rolls forward.
    How many emergency room visits?
    An Oregon study of medicare patients suggests the numbers will rise, not fall.
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/01/happy-new-year-another-obamacare-triumph-in-sight.php
    Quotes NY Times story “The study, published in the journal Science, compared thousands of low-income people in the Portland area who were randomly selected in a 2008 lottery to get Medicaid coverage with people who entered the lottery but remained uninsured. Those who gained coverage made 40 percent more visits to the emergency room than their uninsured counterparts. The pattern was so strong that it held true across most demographic groups, times of day, and types of visits, including for conditions that were treatable in primary care settings.
    The finding casts doubt on the hope that expanded insurance coverage will help rein in rising emergency room costs just as more than two million people are gaining coverage under the Affordable Care Act.”

    Also, note that the 2 million number in the last sentence is likely the one described here, and if so, it’s bogus. An estimated 50% of those people have actually paid, at the same time millions have had their plans cancelled. We have no idea yet if ObamaCare has resulted in more people or less people having insurance.
    http://washingtonexaminer.com/no-2.1-million-havent-enrolled-in-obamacare-plans/article/2541435

  6. Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 2, 2014 at 7:35 pm
    • Paul F. on January 2, 2014 at 9:56 pm

      ^ Those 8 things nicely sum up conservative projection.

      Keep that in mind.

      • Projection Detection Expert on January 3, 2014 at 3:38 am

        ^ I would place that remark by “Paul F.” as a #1 or a #2, or perhaps a whole new #9 should be considered. Congratulations “Paul F.” aka #9

        • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 3, 2014 at 8:05 am

          Heh.
          yeah, go back one thread and look at John’s response to an article link I posted.
          Does he use factual arguments to debunk the data?
          Does he use persuasion to suggest another interpretation of the data?
          Does he use any human fellow-feeling–kindness, humor, even rueful regret about “wrong thinking”?

          I would say no.

          • Paul F. on January 3, 2014 at 4:05 pm

            Jim, you ignored the post by “Projection Detection Expert”. It fell under #1, at the very least. You should apply your crucible to that post too. That poster specializes in vitriol, using a variety of pseudonyms to hide their identity, attacking always, but you blithely skip over it. Telling, Jim.

            Does he use factual arguments to debunk the data?

            Jim, did you provide any “data” that had sufficient validity to be worth “debunking”? Debunk that argument. Your link to the antarctic ship was notable, it falls largely under snark, which number is that on your list?

        • Paul F. on January 3, 2014 at 4:07 pm

          Tsk, tsk, “Projection Detection Expert” falls under #1. Double standard there, it is the golden rule: “It’s OK when Republicans do it”.

          • Projection Detection Expert on January 4, 2014 at 1:41 am

            ^ #3

  7. Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 3, 2014 at 8:14 am

    Sure, this is a flaw that can be fixed. But it is another indicator of the level of competence and subject-matter knowledge that went into the program.
    http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-adding-baby-plan-not-easy-082827023–politics.html
    There’s another quirk in the Obama administration’s new health insurance system: It lacks a way for consumers to quickly and easily update their coverage for the birth of a baby and other common life changes.
    With regular private insurance, parents just notify the health plan. …Right now the HealthCare.gov website can’t handle such updates. …[Other life changes not covered include] marriage and divorce, a death in the family, a new job or a change in income, even moving to a different community.

    Such changes affect financial assistance available under the law, so the government has to be brought into the loop.

  8. Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 3, 2014 at 8:22 am

    Eleven state AGs point out the ObamaCare fixes are illegal.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/194265-11-gop-attorneys-general-accuse-obama-of-using
    “… the only way to fix this problem-ridden law is to enact changes lawfully: through Congressional action,” the attorneys general wrote in a letter to Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. “The illegal actions by this administration must stop.”
    They say the healthcare fix was “flatly illegal under federal constitutional and statutory law.”

    I am not aware of how suspending ObamaCare for businesses could possibly be legal either, for that matter.
    I don’t know about legality but there are huge fairness issues around granting ObamaCare waivers to groups who contribute to the Dem party.

    • Jake on January 3, 2014 at 10:46 am

      “… the only way to fix this problem-ridden law is to enact changes lawfully: through Congressional action”

      Do we have a second Congress I didn’t hear about?

      • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 3, 2014 at 1:04 pm

        Nope, same one.
        Congress passed the law, now the law is being ignored, modified and selectively enforced by the Administration.
        Suggestion: fix the law through the legal process, not through executive fiat (aka, dictatorship).

        • Jake on January 3, 2014 at 2:13 pm

          What legal process? Boehner is too chicken shit of a primary challenge to offer anything but full repeal. No fixes there. Cruz & Co requires 60 votes to have anything pass the Senate. No fixes there. But then wungnuts don’t want a fix. They want to country to crash and burn in hopes the aftermath results in some extra votes come election day.

          Funny how it wasn’t executive fiat when Dubya was running amok.

          • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 4, 2014 at 8:52 am

            Luckily, your guy reversed all those policies.
            Guantanamo is closed, right?
            Drone strikes in foreign countries discontinued?

            I like how he’s cut wasteful gov’t spending to the bone too!

            Oh. Wait. None of those.

          • Jake on January 4, 2014 at 11:37 am

            Nice red herring.

            So what kind of fix do you think can pass Congress and the President’s desk?

          • Paul F. on January 4, 2014 at 11:46 am

            Guantanamo is closed, right?
            Drone strikes in foreign countries discontinued?

            #2

          • Jim,MtnView,Ca,USA on January 5, 2014 at 9:42 am

            Hey, you’re the guy who brought up Bush.

          • Jake on January 5, 2014 at 4:43 pm

            No, I brought up the hypocrisy surrounding “executive fiat”.

            Simpler: Forget the President and Senate, what fix do you think would pass just the House?

          • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 6, 2014 at 7:10 am

            Even simpler. Obey the law as passed. Or get it changed/reversed by working within the Constitution.

          • Jake on January 6, 2014 at 9:02 am

            That’s the problem with living in a bubble. You can only run in circles.

          • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 6, 2014 at 12:58 pm

            #1

          • Jake on January 6, 2014 at 3:32 pm

            That’s what I said. Back to square one.

            You demand Congress make the fixes to ACA, but Congress is incapable of doing so.

            President Obama, tired of the whining, makes changes to what has the wingnuts most butthurt. In a wonderful display of logic, wingnuts are now attacking President Obama for addressing what they’ve been bitching about. ODS in its purest form and proving ODS is much stronger than OCDS.

          • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 6, 2014 at 10:07 pm
          • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 6, 2014 at 10:08 pm

            It’s asking too much for them to obey the law they passed?
            It’s asking too much to have a president, not a king?

          • Jake on January 7, 2014 at 7:15 am

            It’s asking too much to have the House offer more than just 40+ pointless, symbolic votes to repeal the ACA?

            It’s asking too much to have the Senate Minority end their automatic fillibusters on everything?

            It’s asking too much to have Republicans end their epic 6-year temper tantrum?

            Good to know where you stand on executive powers. May come in handy with future bubble-bursting attempts. Though, I highly doubt it. Quite the impenetrable fortress you’ve built.

  9. Jim,MtnView,Ca,USA on January 4, 2014 at 10:16 am

    Nuns try to overturn the required-contraception mandate of ObamaCare.
    The method used? Form a union and apply for a waiver, just like all the pro-Democrat unions have done!
    http://scrappleface.com/2014/01/04/nuns-unionize-seek-obamacare-contraception-exemption/
    “By incorporating as the International Sisterhood of Mercy Workers (Local 316), they hope to join the dozens of other organized labor groups that the Obama administration has shielded from the devastating impact of ObamaCare.”

    • Jim,MtnView,Ca,USA on January 4, 2014 at 10:17 am

      OK, confession–ScrappleFace is a conservative humor site. :)
      The story is humor not actual news, except the part about unions getting exemptions from ObamaCare unlike the rest of us.

      • Jake on January 4, 2014 at 11:41 am

        “Local 316″ gave it away. Essence of the argument is still true. Those most opposed to abortion want to limit the leading prevention of pregnancies.

        • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 4, 2014 at 11:04 pm

          Abort away, Jake.
          Just don’t use my money to pay for it.

          • Jake on January 5, 2014 at 4:45 pm

            Granted.

  10. Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on January 4, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-03/how-obamacare-rollout-really-being-experienced
    Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people on a frigid Thursday morning because they can’t determine whether their Obamacare insurance plans are in effect.

  11. Bill H on January 18, 2014 at 7:08 am

    I am getting an “unsafe message when I get to polipundit I also get the same message when I goto the Drudge Report. It looks tome like Liberals are playing games.

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