What the jury never saw

July 14, 2013
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Trayvon Martin grew marijuana, liked guns, and got suspended for repeatedly getting into fights. The night he was killed, there were grass stains on the knees of his pants.

69 Responses to What the jury never saw

  1. artist on July 14, 2013 at 7:56 am

    All of this will come out if the Feds file.

  2. Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on July 14, 2013 at 11:07 am

    Even with all this missing, the jury still found not guilty on all counts.
    The state never had a case, just political pressure.

  3. Budahmon on July 14, 2013 at 3:11 pm

    The State of Florida AGs never had a case. This was a show trial, hyped by the left and prosecuted by Republicans (Angela Corey). It’s not quite “Bonfire of the Vanities”, but the racial politics are just starting. AP is still running the picture of 12 yr old TradeMark. I wonder if Zimmerman will be able to qualify for victim’s fund here in Florida now, since he was acquitted, and the jury felt that he was the one that had been assaulted.

    • CJO on July 16, 2013 at 1:11 pm

      CJOffermann said…
      Just saw this. Let’s all band together: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/civil-rights-prosecution-angela-corey-united-states-department-justice-she-deliberately-withheld/pGTglGG2

      Civil Rights Prosecution of Angela Corey by United States Department of Justice for She Deliberately Withheld Evidence
      Civil Rights Prosecution of Angela Corey by United States Department of Justice for the unlawful Prosecution of George Zimmerman for depriving him of his Constitutional Rights of Life and Liberty by the United States Department of Justice, Eric Holder, United States Attorney General in United States District Court as swiftly and expeditiously as is possible.
      Angela Corey is alleged to have omitted material exculpatory facts, such as photographs of the wounds on George Zimmerman’s head, which go to his defense of “self defense.”
      She was aware when she submitted an affidavit that it did not contain the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. She deliberately withheld evidence that supported Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense.

      Created: Jul 14, 2013
      Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties, Criminal Justice and Law Enforcement, Government Reform Learn about Petition Thresholds It’s up to you to build support for petitions you care about and gather more signatures. A petition must get 150 signatures in order to be publicly searchable on WhiteHouse.gov.
      Over time, we may need to adjust the petition signature thresholds, but we’ll always let you know what the thresholds are.
      Signatures needed by August 13, 2013 to reach goal of 100,000

  4. Carrying George's water on July 15, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    Hey Poli, don’t forget that he molested that teenage girl!

    Oh, wait, never mind, that was Zimmerman.

    Don’t forget that he beat his wife!

    Oh, wait, never mind, that was Zimmerman.

    Don’t forget that he assaulted that cop!

    Oh, wait, never mind, that was Zimmerman.

    Don’t forget that he committed perjury and his word is demonstrated to be worthless!

    Oh, wait, never mind, that was Zimmerman.

    • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on July 15, 2013 at 9:18 pm
    • Evan3457 on July 18, 2013 at 8:25 pm

      Oh, wait. She beat him, to, and he got a restraining order against her.
      Oh, wait. He assaulted a cop to try to protect a homeless man. A homeless black man. Charge expunged.
      Oh, wait. No he didn’t commit perjury of any kind, or Angela Corey, vindictive witch that she is, would certainly have charged him with that.

      The prosecution didn’t come anywhere near proving its case beyond a reasonable doubt.
      By all that is right in this world, justice was done.

      And there’s nothing, absolutely nothing you can say that will ever prove otherwise.

      • Sam on July 19, 2013 at 6:53 am

        Really, she beat him?

        Uh, no.

        Really, it is OK to assault a cop to protect a homeless man? In a bar?

        Uh, Evan, Zimmerman committed perjury. His word is worth nothing.

        Angela Corey is a vindictive witch? Carry water much for your rigid right wing ideology?

        • Evan3457 on July 19, 2013 at 7:27 pm

          Uh, Sam, if he committed perjury, why isn’t he charged with it? They want to get him for something.

          There were discrepancies in his testimony. Lawyers (defense attorneys) who explanations I’ve read and seem like they know what they’re talking about agree they are fairly typical of witness accounts, especially when the witness is a participant, were inconsequential, are not perjury, and certainly don’t allow the prosecution to claim guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

          “In August 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order against Zuazo. The competing claims were resolved with both restraining orders being granted.” That kicks that one to the curb.

          The police assault was a shove, and it was reduced, and later expunged. Clearly, this crime against humanity denies Zimmerman the right to self-defense.

          Angela Corey ISN’T a vindictive witch? Why don’t you ask that noted racist Tea Party Patriot Alan Dershowitz about what she did when he criticized her?

          Swallow your left-wing propaganda dry or with a glass of water?

          • Evan3457 on July 19, 2013 at 7:27 pm

            Actually, not testimony, but taped statement and explanation to police.

        • Gehring on February 25, 2014 at 12:50 pm

          Uh, Sam, do you have any idea what kind of loser you were responding to: http://waswatching.com/2011/01/13/reminds-me-of-the-old-joke-that-starts-kei-igawa-walks-into-a-bar/; or http://waswatching.com/2013/10/20/1946-1967-2004-and-now-2013/

          A lot of losers with the handle Evan3457 on the Internet.

  5. unclefred on July 15, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Okay lefties. Zimmerman has filed suit against NBC. Whether or not the feds file, everything that has not shown up about Martin will show up now.

    Sad really so very very sad. If the media and the administration had simply let the process run its course, no charges would have every been filed. No riots. No race baiting. Nothing, just a case of self defense against a thug. God knows that, despite the fact that his use of deadly force was justified, Zimmerman will have to live with the pain of taking a life.

    Now we can expect 3-4 years of litigation. More racial tension.

    At least Zimmerman survived the attempted assault.

    • Carrying George's water on July 16, 2013 at 3:36 am

      Nice interpretation, let’s go with that! We mustn’t mention, however, that at the beginning of deliberations three jurors wanted to convict. That fact lends too much credence to the idea that the trial was necessary and not a product of politics, media or the administration. We mustn’t mention that Zimmerman was never in danger of dying, let’s go with the story that the killing was the only way out.

      We must stick to our story, and not look at the other side. NOT ONCE! NOT EVEN A TINY BIT!

      • IP727 on July 16, 2013 at 5:00 am

        “at the beginning of deliberations three jurors wanted to convict”

        But they overcame their bias when faced with the facts.

      • artist on July 16, 2013 at 6:04 am

        NOT GUILTY.

        Get. Over. It.

      • unclefred on July 16, 2013 at 4:19 pm

        The reason that juries deliberate in criminal trials is to come to unanimous agreement or end up hung. It matters NOT THE LEAST where the jurors were when they started deliberation. It ONLY matters where they ended up. In this case it was unanimous for acquittal.

        I stand by my original statement. This should never have come to trial and Zimmerman should never have been charged. Even now we are learning that the prosecutor presented an inaccurate affidavit to the judge to charge 2nd degree murder and withheld information from the defense until a whistle blower (since fired) turned it over.

        As for Zimmerman never being in danger of dying. Tell you what, go lay on the sidewalk and I’ll smash your head into it as hard as I possibly can say 7 times. Then you can tell me that you were in no danger.

        • Ripley on July 16, 2013 at 4:56 pm

          The lesson for all you gun-toting neighborhood watchers out there is you must always have your weapon drawn if you’re going to follow and approach people who are heavily armed with a bag of Skittles. That way you won’t get your head smashed against the sidewalk 7 times. Zim may be a hero, but he’s the most inept semi-cop since Barney Fife.

          • Jim,MtnViewCA,USA on July 17, 2013 at 8:08 am

            Trayvon was a thug.
            He snuck around and attacked GZ from the back and started slamming him.
            It now appears this was anti-gay violence, normally a no-no in Prog circles.

            Yet the idiots are wedded to their agenda.

          • Evan3457 on July 18, 2013 at 8:28 pm

            Zimmerman claimed self-defense, and the prosecution didn’t come anywhere near proving otherwise. In a sane world, unfettered by politcal extortion just would’ve meant dismissing the charges after the prosecution finished its lack of a case.

            But we’ll have to settle for a not guilty verdict. So, in the end, justice was done.

          • Sam on July 19, 2013 at 6:55 am

            Evan, you have law and justice confused. Zimmerman was tried in a court of law, not a court of justice.

          • Evan3457 on July 19, 2013 at 7:33 pm

            Since “courts of justice” are invariably mob rule, I’d rather be tried in a court of law.

            Oh, the constitution doesn’t mention the creation of “courts of justice”. It does mention:

            1) “…nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself”. Which means not only that Zimmerman didn’t have to testify, but that no negative inference can be drawn from that refusal.

            2) “…nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”. Note that saw due process of LAW, and not due process of JUSTICE. This means either you and your friends or the Obama Administration, or nor anybody else has the right to create Kangaroo Kourts of Justice.

            ========
            Sam, you have the right to think justice wasn’t done. I have the right to think it was. Most of the actual evidence is on my side.

      • Evan3457 on July 18, 2013 at 8:26 pm

        And then they took a look at the law, realized the prosecution had no case, and voted to acquit. A very adult, intelligent job by them.

  6. Ripley on July 16, 2013 at 12:46 am

    Trayvon Martin grew marijuana, liked guns, and got suspended for repeatedly getting into fights.

    Poli, I couldn’t agree with you more. Anyone who does those things, no matter their race, deserves to be executed on the spot.

    • artist on July 16, 2013 at 6:06 am

      Never give up on getting your GED. I know you struggle with the reading/comprehension part but keep trying.

      • Jim,MtnViewCA,USA on July 16, 2013 at 7:18 am

        And, never, ever, become a thug.
        No matter how many of your baby pictures they print, in the end people will only say “It’s a shame to have to say this but in fact the world is a better place without that thug Ripley”.

        • Ripley on July 16, 2013 at 2:43 pm

          Can’t you dopes see when someone’s agreeing with you? Now that Z is free, I want him to lead an army of volunteers and continue his work and follow everyone around and kill anyone who “grew marijuana, liked guns, or got suspended for repeatedly getting into fights.” Think about how peaceful our nation would become, not to mention much less crowded. I expect this would reduce the population by more that half. So, let’s support this idea.

          • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on July 16, 2013 at 8:43 pm

            This one’s for you, Ripley.
            Cos you’re the dope, and it shows.
            https://mobile.twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/357298655335694340

          • Ripley on July 16, 2013 at 9:09 pm

            “the world is a better place without that thug”

            Relax Jim, with you here, if someone shoots you to death I promise you I will acquit them if I find out you were once suspended from school. And since every polipunster has said they not only “liked guns” but they love them, I would acquit anyone who murders any of you because this kind of talk makes you all potential thugs. Better tell poli to delete the evidence ASAP.

          • Jim,MtnViewCA,USA on July 17, 2013 at 6:54 am

            So,were you on this jury?
            Black man with pistol shots white teen, gets acquitted.
            Somehow this one doesn’t get the same amount of coverage, does it? You’ve got a press corps (or as our President would say “corpse”) and all you libs can’t understand you’re being played.
            http://rochester.ynn.com/content/top_stories/490926/jury-finds-roderick-scott-not-guilty/

          • Evan3457 on July 18, 2013 at 8:30 pm

            Can’t dopes like you see that your attempt to re-cast what happened along ideologically leftist lines is moronic?

            Not guilty. Next case.

          • Sam on July 19, 2013 at 6:58 am

            Hilarious, aren’t you a caution, Evan, step out of your rigid ideology and take some fresh air.

          • Evan3457 on July 19, 2013 at 7:35 pm

            Thanks for conceding the argument, Sam.

    • Evan3457 on July 18, 2013 at 8:29 pm

      No, but if they attack someone, and he fears for his life, and shoots him in self-defense, and the prosecution can’t come close to proving otherwise, then the correct verdict is “not guilty”.

      Can’t put a man in prison for 30 years because you think maybe he did something against the law. Well, not yet, anyway.

  7. Pixel Patriot on July 16, 2013 at 4:20 am

    *Some* people are allowed to like guns and *some* people aren’t.

    • Jim,MtnViewCA,USA on July 16, 2013 at 10:12 am

      Seems like the jury should have been told the truth about Trayvon though.
      Instead of the endless pictures from before he became a thug.

    • Evan3457 on July 18, 2013 at 8:32 pm

      Some people pay attention to the (lack of) evidence, and some don’t.

      Fortunately, the jury was made up of the first group, and justice was done.

  8. Let's Get Real on July 16, 2013 at 10:35 am

    *Some* people are allowed to like guns and *some* people aren’t.

    Are you OK with children handling guns unsupervised, or were you just trying to play the race card again without thinking it through?

    • Gerry Owen on July 16, 2013 at 11:15 am

      Depends on the kid.
      My 15 year old daughter and 11 year old boy are not only comfortable and capable with a variety of firearms, they are also responsible.

      • Let's Get Real on July 16, 2013 at 11:55 am

        I was addressing a leftist anti-gun nut.

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  9. Tray on July 16, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    And yet you people wonder why black and hispanic people won’t vote for your shitty GOP candidates?

    • Jim,MtnView,CA,USA on July 16, 2013 at 8:47 pm

      No, not right. We know the GOP candidates suck. No issue there! What we wonder is why black and Hispanic people vote for your shitty Dem candidates.
      Google Menendez and underage girls for a start.

      • tray on July 17, 2013 at 2:50 am

        I know you don’t understand Jim like you don’t understand a lot of things. That really is the amazing part.

        Jut like it amazes GOP leaders that raising taxes on the poorest people while giving tax breaks to the richest somehow doesn’t convince the poor to vote for the GOP? Those poor fools don’t understand the favor the GOP is doing them when they raise their taxes and give the rich a tax break.

        Do you have a link or two you can provide me that will set us all straight no how that really does benefit those poor folk.

        • Jim,MtnViewCA,USA on July 17, 2013 at 6:56 am

          Two words Tray: “Jon Corzine”.
          Hey, two more for a bonus: “Terry MacAuliffe”.
          Why stop now: “F. D. Raines”

          • von on July 17, 2013 at 8:59 am

            I think the GOP may need to embrace their perverts rather than dis them. That’s what black NY voters want. http://tinyurl.com/ncsopww

          • von on July 17, 2013 at 9:09 am

            GOP also needs to figure out a way to appeal more to dead people and people in a coma. http://tinyurl.com/k4k7u5q

          • Jim,MtnViewCA,USA on July 17, 2013 at 11:23 am

            von’s links: heh :)

          • tray on July 17, 2013 at 3:01 pm

            Commenting on this site makes me feel like I’ve come to knife fight where everyone else is holding a golf ball.

            No wonder it’s so dead. The stupid — it’s beyond fathom.

          • Jim,MtnView,Ca,USA on July 17, 2013 at 7:02 pm

            Tray, you just blindly assert that GOPers are for rich people and don’t comprehend that there could be any doubt.
            How come so many of the rich people vote Dem? Here’s the lawyers–
            http://excessofdemocracy.com/blog/2013/7/ranking-the-most-liberal-and-conservative-law-firms

            It’s like you watch MSNBC and come here expecting that “everyone knows” that
            Zimmerman was told not to get out of his car (false)
            Zimmerman hunted down the kid (false)
            Zimmerman is white (false)
            The kid was a sweet teenager (false)
            You guys never explain why, you just want everyone to take the lies being propagated to the low-info voters. And everyone but you is stupid? Uh huhhhhhhhhhhh…….

        • Evan3457 on July 18, 2013 at 8:33 pm

          Which has nothing whatsoever to the do with the fact that the prosecution brought almost no case to court.

        • IP727 on July 24, 2013 at 7:29 pm

          The GOP will never be able to out welfare state the party of the welfare state. The minorities will never give up their place in the trough. The “poor” by definition don’t pay any tax other than local sales tax. It was the Bush tax cuts that actually removed low income people from the rolls. But then you knew that.

      • Sam on July 19, 2013 at 6:50 am

        Do you mean Sen Bob Menendez?

        If so, did you look into how that turned out?

      • Evan3457 on July 20, 2013 at 4:34 am

        Why, it was dismissed for lack of evidence. Just like State v. Zimmerman should have been.

    • IP727 on July 17, 2013 at 11:54 am

      We know why, the GOP isn’t in the business of buying welfare votes with tax dollars.

      • Jake on July 17, 2013 at 1:16 pm

        Sure they do. They just change the word to “subsidies”.

        • IP727 on July 24, 2013 at 7:31 pm

          BRAVO SIERRA

      • tray on July 17, 2013 at 2:59 pm

        The GOP are used to selling their votes well at least after they’ve been elected they are.

    • Evan3457 on July 18, 2013 at 8:32 pm

      And yet you people keep race-baiting, even though you know it’s morally infantile?

  10. Obama's Speech Coach on July 17, 2013 at 2:26 am

    The Zimmerman thing was rigged from the beginning… He is a Democrat… It’s all a kabuki play… and it worked…

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