Amnesty: Bad politics, bad policy, and we can stop it

November 9, 2012

Well, so much for my blogging hiatus; it lasted all of one day.

It looks like the politicians have found a surefire way to rouse us conservatives from our despondency: Amnesty for illegal aliens.

I can’t stand by and let the elites push through amnesty, any more than I could let them burn down my house.

Amnnesty is bad politics and bad policy. We must stop it. That’ll be hard; but it’s always been.

Amnesty is bad politics
Official estimates indicate there are 12-20 million illegal aliens in the country. Add in chain migration (you bring your extended family over) and the inevitable “guest” worker program that will be part of this devil’s bargain, and we’re talking at least 40 million low-skilled, poor, under-educated new immigrants.

How will these new Americans vote? Well, Hispanics voted 71-27 for Obama this year. Assuming they’re grateful to Republicans for amnesty (a dubious proposition), assume they’d switch to merely 55-45 Democrat. That now leaves the GOP with an additional 4-million vote deficit to fill with other voters. In short, only Schwarzenegger-Republicans could get elected.

Pass a policy most Americans loathe, and lose 4 million more votes from the people it’s supposed to benefit. What a bargain!

And what sorts of policies would these new voters support? Well, let’s ask them:

Just 12 percent of Latinos support a cuts-only approach to deficit reduction, and only 25 percent want to repeal Obamacare. Only 31 percent of Hispanics say they’d be more likely to vote for a Republican who supports the DREAM Act.

Good luck winning elections with 40 million more voters like that.

And there’s the small matter of the 49 percent of Americans who voted for Mitt Romney. How many millions of the most committed conservatives will the Republican party lose if it becomes the party of amnesty? Back in 2007, Congress got more calls about amnesty (mostly from people like me) than about anything else in history. There are quite a few of us, maybe even more than there are Hispanic voters in total.

Amnesty is bad policy
America has uniquely American values. In particular, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, the right to bear arms, and a government designed to not “get things done”. These are incomprehensible to most foreigners.

We limit immigration – legal and illegal – for the same reason that every nation on earth limits immigration – to preserve and protect our unique culture and values.

Admitting tens of millions of foreign-born citizens into the political process would replace our values with those of their home countries. We can’t allow that. American ideals are a beacon of light to the rest of the world. They must be protected.

We can stop amnesty
Back when George W. Bush pushed amnesty in 2006, he lost. It cost him control of Congress, as disillusioned conservatives gave up on the Republican party. But we also stopped amnesty in a Democrat-controlled Congress in 2007, by a larger margin than we’d done before.

This year, as usual, our leaders are caving. John Boehner and Sean Hannity now support “comprehensive” immigration “reform”. Why? Not for the good of the country, but for the good of the Republican party, of course. They even admit it.

But you don’t have to go along. Put some spine in these people. For starters, donate to NumbersUSA. Then call your Congresscritter, and tell him what you think about amnesty. Call Sean Hannity, and tell him what you think.

Over the next few months, there will probably be a need for committed volunteers and activists to step forward. Do it, and help in any way you can. Your country, your way of life, the values you hold most dear, are all at stake. Lose on this issue, and you lose everything.

29 Responses to Amnesty: Bad politics, bad policy, and we can stop it

  1. artist on November 9, 2012 at 7:21 am

    Why not?

    Boehner can call it the “Registering 15 million new Democrats” Act.

    The country is finished. And I’ve said that for years, I didn’t start on 11/6.

  2. Lyle on November 9, 2012 at 8:19 am

    I didn’t think your hiatus would last long. At least amnesty brought you back. The problem is amnesty is something party leaders and big money backers have always wanted to do and the election gave them a perfect reason

  3. Dismantle ObamaCare on November 9, 2012 at 8:26 am

    Poli – glad to hear your back! Don’t give up! Life goes on and I’m not done fighting for America yet!

  4. vinnie on November 9, 2012 at 8:27 am

    You guys are way too negative. We are down, but not out. Welcome back, Polipundit. I like you. 🙂

    • Dismantle ObamaCare on November 9, 2012 at 8:47 am

      Agreed. We can cause alot of trouble if we want to right now! If America is at a tipping point, I am ready to tip it right the F$*# over!

  5. Rational on November 9, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Like Poli, I am naturalized citizen too. I also strongly oppose amnesty.

    If a country was founded on laws and rules, we just can not let anyone illegally enters and become legal. Also, I like America to remain strong by attracting well educated, smart and hard working people from other part of the world through legal immigration.

    With that said, amnesty is a touch issue with Hispanics voters. Romney may have served conservatives well in the primary by advertising self deportation policy for illegal immigrants, but he certainly has paid price in the election with Hispanics voters.

    Nowadays, many republican politicians, like Bush are trying to accept amnesty because they realized the future outcome on large part lies on the ever expanding Hispanic population.

    I’m afraid this issue is becoming more and more dead course.

  6. Dan on November 9, 2012 at 8:49 am

    Ha! Mickey Kaus supported Obama and said that his main reason was that with Obama in office,amnesty would not happen.
    Honestly though,I am nsot sure I care. AMnesty will hurt the Obama voters most of all(low class white trash,blacks,single women). Fuck em.

  7. Arizona CJ on November 9, 2012 at 9:41 am

    Considering how poorly John “amnesty” McCain did with Hispanics, how the hell can Republicans be stupid enough to think that caving on this issue would help them with Hispanics?

    Didn’t they learn their lesson last time: that this issue hurts them a lot with Republicans?

    A more useful approach would be to make sure the black community understands exactly what amnesty means for them – what it would do TO them. Take a page from the Democrat’s playbook and ignite racial animosity between those two groups. How? Easy: liken Mexicans to Koreans, and highlight how well Koreans have done in the US.

    For those that are unaware, there is enormous – and utterly unwarranted – hatred against Koreans and also other Asians by a very large part of the black community. There’s also an existing prejudice against Mexicans.

    Would doing this be nasty and despicable? Of course! But this is war.

  8. Dan on November 9, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Blacks don’t care. They got Obamaphones,welfare,food stamps,ssi and everything else to tide them over.

  9. Scott on November 9, 2012 at 10:04 am

    I’m a Republican and frankly dismayed at the attitude that so many people in my party have about this issue. The argument seems entirely strategic – “they will vote Democrat and are liberal so we shouldn’t let them in”. These same people would be arguing in FAVOR of Polish immigration because they would likely vote Republican when they got here.

    The question isn’t “how does this affect me strategically”, it is “what is the right thing to do?” Right now we have a problem that has no good answer – we didn’t secure the border before, so now we have 10+ million people living in our country that have been here for a long time.

    We have 3 options:
    1) Leave them as a permanent underclass, which will result in the problem festering and corrode our society.
    2) Rectify the problem by rooting them out and sending them home, which is complicated by the fact that their children and friends are US citizens.
    3) Rectify the problem by locking down the border and legitimizing the people who are here. This seems to me to be the most humane way to fix the problem.

    The argument that you limit immigration to avoid changes to your culture ignores the fact that the USA has had a dynamic, changing culture for OVER 300 years – sine before we were even a country! Previous waves of Irish, Italian and Japanese immigrants came here and both they AND the native population changed. We aren’t the same as we were in the 1700s or the 1800s.

    Don’t assume that the Latinos who are here will always think the same way that they currently do or that they will always want to vote for Democrats. If Democrats perform poorly AND Republicans can stop convincing them that we don’t like them (unintentionally), they will give us another look. Attitudes change over time.

    • Arizona CJ on November 9, 2012 at 5:29 pm

      I’m opposed to Polish (or any other) illegal immigration, and I don’t care how they’d vote.

      I’m fine with *legal* immigration of people we need and want. In times of high unemployment, that means we need less.

      As for illegals, they show no respect for our laws, so why show any for them? Doing so is a slap in the face to all who come here the right way; a process often taking years.

      The fact that most illegals would become D voters just gives me one more reason to oppose them; I’d oppose them even if they were 100% Republican.

    • Earl on November 15, 2012 at 8:50 pm

      2) Rectify the problem by rooting them out and sending them home, which is complicated by the fact that their children and friends are US citizens.

      Is it complicated to send a car thief to prison if he has children and friends here?

  10. Setnaffa on November 9, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Think differently. Stop trying to use their methods, their tools, their filth and deceit. Spread the Gospel. Let God do the heavy lifting.

    Philippians 2:13 (NIV) “for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.”

    Ephesians 6:12 (NIV) “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.”

    Romans 8:31-32 (NIV) “What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?”

  11. The Return of the Giant CrapWeasel on November 9, 2012 at 11:05 am

    when the lemmings on this board stop supporting weak-kneed RINO’s like Juan McCain and Romney who are both weak-kneed on Amnesty, then I’ll start to take these type of posts seriously.

    • Troll Alert on November 12, 2012 at 2:35 am

      Oh, there are plenty of alternatives to establishment rinos but no solution includes your batshit crazy uncle pedoclown who’ve lost the election by Mondale like proportions, so take you delusional paulbot rants and cram em up your arse, moron.

  12. Setnaffa on November 9, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Former President Theodore Roosevelt in speaking to the largely Irish Catholic Knights of Columbus at Carnegie Hall on Columbus Day 1915, asserted that,

    “There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all… The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic… There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.”

    The Democrats want to eliminate “good Americans” and keep us separated. As they have ALWAYS done.

  13. Setnaffa on November 9, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Liberal Republicans look good to the GOP Establishment because they’re all Democrats. We need to break with them completely. Whatever that means.

  14. The Return of the Giant CrapWeasel on November 9, 2012 at 11:12 am

    given the talk of Boehner and Hannity, who represent the elitist, Rockefeller-types that have control of the GOP, its obvious they intend to drive the GOP further to the center — in fact, more so to the ‘left of center’ in an appeal to get more voter support. All they are concerned about is retaining their political power of the GOP … national sovereignty, individual liberty, and citizens lifestyles be damned. Xince these jerks have been in control, most of you who support them have seen your lifestyles decrease — the housing bubble and stock market crashed in 2007/2008 while Bush was still at the helm — yet you still continue to support them? Why?? Granted Obama made things worse and sucks even more. But why do you continue to put up with this kind of leadership within the GOP??

    I’m sure they’ll be trumpeting Marco Rubio as a 2016 candidate. LMAO — I see they already are. How many of you will continue to buy into the crap?

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  15. The Return of the Giant CrapWeasel on November 9, 2012 at 11:15 am

    Looks like Glenn Beck is finally starting to ‘get it’.

  16. Hera on November 9, 2012 at 11:37 am

    John McCain was for “comprehensive immigration reform” and had a track record of supporting immigration “reform”. Yet he lost the Hispanic vote to Obama a man with no plan and no record on immigration “reform”.Could it be because McCain was the wrong color and with the wrong party? Why would anyone think supporting amnesty is a winning proposition for the GOP?

    • Arizona CJ on November 9, 2012 at 5:19 pm

      Maybe, just maybe, I could understand (though disagree with) how some might have thought that McCain pushing amnesty might get him a chunk of the Hispanic vote.

      What I can’t comprehend is how, after seeing what happened to McCain with Hispanics, anyone could possibly think that now.

  17. CenPho on November 9, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    We all know that there will be nothing comprehensive about “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”. It will be amnesty, straight up, along with the right to vote and it will still be mean spirited to try and stop the flow in. Oh, and no deporting felon aliens because it separates families. It’s just the foot in the door and they will incrementally push for more and more until we are all Mexico.

  18. Larry Brown on November 10, 2012 at 11:07 am

    Sean Hannity, Charles Kruathammer, Jeb Bush, and Marco Rubio are suddenly abandoning their principles and going wobbly, by boarding Obama’s amnesty train. How exactly will giving amnesty and the vote to 11-20 million “undocumented Democrats” advance the conservative cause or help the GOP win elections? This is just preposterous thinking. The truth is amnesty is a wet dream for Obama and extreme left wingers who want to “fundamentally transform” the U.S. into a third world socialist state forever. America may be able to survive four more years of Obama. It cannot survive amnesty.

  19. violet on November 11, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    Amnesty or any kind of legalization will be terribly bad for America, this is a shame Obama and his gang can not see this! Being so that it is just to many illegal aliens in America, and their over population is steadily growing, an amnesty will be just giving Mexico America! It will be just forcing Americans to live in a new Mexico in their own country. Sure an Amnesty would help all the illegal aliens who want their American dream, but it would shatter Americans, American dream in their own country! Americans now are putting up with so much of illegal aliens wrongdoings in America, and our own American politicians pushing illegal immigration down their throats, We all are force to listen to our own politicians telling us the easiest way to handle all the illegal aliens who are all ready here, is to give them amnesty, or legalization and everything will be just dandy!!!
    In reality it will be a complete disaster, why would any president or congress give amnesty to 11 to 40 million of illegal aliens, when there are millions of American in their own country out of work??? Why legalize millions of illegal aliens and give them work permits, when it does nothing more then just put them in competition with poor and middle class Americans in getting jobs in their own country, and them always getting jobs the majority of time, it is already to the point that hardly no Americans are getting hired, especially Black Americans, not unless you have an Hispanic name, also not unless you speak bilingual! Our beautiful America has already become a disaster with illegal immigration, and it will be much more a disaster in the near future, ever more so, since Obama have another four years, and all those Americans who think amnesty will be good for America will have a rule of awakening!! Just look at our over crowed schools, jobs that are already taken by illegal aliens, how illegal aliens over crowd our hospital emergency rooms. them receiving so many incentives, American government freebees, and most of these that i mention they are standing in the front line for all of these, while Americans are strongly force to stand in the back of the line in their own country! America needs a much stronger immigration laws, It looks like it going to take Americans to stand up and stop amnesty for millions of illegal aliens before it is to late! Our Politicians want to reward lawbreakers, illegal aliens founds ways to get money from America freely, look at what they are doing to get big income tax refunds, and they are getting back so much more then our own Americans, they learn how to just scam everything to survive in America on their illegal status, they are scamming our IRS by lying, they are claiming dependents they don’t really have, or claiming dozen of nieces and nephews who live in Mexico, and getting income tax refunds, of $14,000.00 to $30,000.00 just big checks every year, which average out to 4.2 billions of dollars a year!THAT IS AMERICANS TAX DOLLARS! Guess what no one, is doing nothing about this, they do not have to pay this back, if they were an American they would be force to pay it back with interest!!!


    • Donna-Marie Pace on November 6, 2014 at 7:02 am

      I totally agree with you Violet. This country is going to hell. Obama has violated what this country stands for and our Constitution of the United States of America. He bypasses Congress to get what he wants. I have no problem with them coming here LEGALLY! My grandfather came here from Italy. Back in the days the Italians were treated like crap. My grandfather learned to speak fluent English, learned the laws of the Constitution, worked hard and paid taxes and never, ever, asked for government had outs. He built his own home with the help of his sons. Now this is the way to become a Citizen of the United States of America. He got his citizenship the CORRECT WAY!

  20. violet on November 11, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    I sorry i made a mistake of saying giving Mexico to America, I met to say give America to Mexico!

  21. violet on November 11, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    Americans are not allow to say nothing about illegal aliens wrongdoings in America, we are to endure all of it, while our politicians just sweep all of what they do in America under the carpet, Actually there is nothing wrong with immigrants coming to America, of course America is an immigrant country it always has been, Americans love to see immigrants coming to America the right way,and American have always excepted millions of illegal immigrants every year standing in line getting their legal citizenship the right way. Americans do know that America is a country of immigrants! legal immigrant that is!! And again Americans knows that America is a country of laws! The question is where are those so call laws,that comes to the security of their own Americans??? why are our leaders allowing Mexico and their illegal aliens to control our laws, or just change our laws for their very own purpose???? I am very afraid for America, Our children, grandchildren, an Amnesty for millions of illegal aliens will hurt Americans, regardless of what Obama says!! It will be so much more to an amnesty to millions illegal aliens in America, again it will be a terrible hardship on Americans who have legal status to America!!!!

  22. Donna-Marie Pace on November 6, 2014 at 7:04 am

    Well said Violet!