Immigration – the killer issue

September 23, 2011
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Rick Perry’s weakness on illegal immigration could very well cost him the presidency. And this isn’t the first time a politician has self-destructed because of his pro-illegal-immigrant stance.

Remember in 2007, when Hillary Clinton’s waffling on drivers’ licenses for illegal aliens marked the beginning of the end of her presidential candidacy?

Or how John McCain’s presidential candidacy was dead in the water until he suddenly became an immigration hawk? And who can forget this ad, which helped him get re-elected to the Senate:

It’s not just national races. In Nebraska, Governor Dave Heineman won his Republican primary - “one of the most surprising defeats in Nebraska political history” –  almost entirely because his very popular opponent, Tom Osborne, supported in-state tuition for illegal aliens.

At every opportunity, voters have expressed themselves loudly and clearly on this issue. Why won’t the politicians listen? They seem to like illegal immigrants more than they like their own careers. If that sounds crazy, it is.

12 Responses to Immigration – the killer issue

  1. ken_phd on September 23, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Poli:

    “Why won’t the politicians listen?”

    Unfortunately, it’s because they know best. Perry made a fatal error last night. I expect the next questions to be put forward would be:

    “should we subsidize illegals’ children for housing, welfare, food, transportation, post doctorate degrees, SBA loans, HUD loans, vocational training etc, etc. The list goes on and on.

    What Perry, in his stupidity, didn’t understand is that US taxpayers have to pay extra in order for illegals to get a discount. The light bulb will probably go on at some point but long after the horse has left the barn.

    He’s done.

  2. Steve on September 23, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    At every opportunity, voters have expressed themselves loudly and clearly on this issue. Why won’t the politicians listen?
    — Polipundit

    Easy, because RINO voters love to loudly advertise, in advance, their 100% willingness to settle for a RINO jellyfish politician like Perry

    As I said in a previous post ~~ IF the millions of Rinos across the land would finally grow a pair and be strong enough to DEMAND a strong Conservative who MUST be a hawk on border security and never sign any amnesty of any kind….
    …then it would NEVER come down to a choice between a RINO and 0bama.

    But millions of Rinos love to trumpet their jellyfish weaknesses in advance and allow all the open-borders RINO hacks like Perry squeak through the cracks.

    This “anybody but 0bama” crap is what got us stuck with McAmnesty.
    …and now, the same “anybody but 0bama” crap will get you McPerry.

    If the entire GOP base was bold and plain spoken like rightwingyahoo, then RINOs like Perry would not even dare to throw their hat in the ring.

    But RINO trumpet their weaknesses, and that’s why the politicians won’t listen.
    :roll:

  3. Steve on September 23, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    A voice from the past…

    rightwingyahoo on August 28, 2011
    …Perry is a bought and paid for La Raza snuggler, and after what we went thru with Bush, only a well, fellow La Raza snuggler would fall for the same crap again… If you look closely, Perry is even saying no to a fence. He says it won’t work. It’s clear as day that he wants to amnesty all illegals in return for some nonexistent border security. He’s not interested in enforcing the laws on this at all. Take a hike, Perry, you worthless RINO sellout.

    I think it’s possible he doesn’t get the nomination, when people start looking more closely at this, and he digs in and starts calling amnesty opponents racist.

    RightWingYahoo was correct and he saw RINO “open borders” Perry for exactly what he is, even when many here didn’t want to hear the truth :shock:

    Perry DID “dig in”
    …just as RWY predicted, and accused the base of being racist / heartless

    The jellyfish ®’s should pay closer attention to the RWY’s of the base…
    …and we wouldn’t keep getting stuck with RINO hacks like McPerry.

    My 2¢ anyway…
    :cool:

  4. Anne P. on September 23, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Sooner or later the GOP has to realize Hispanic Americans are here to stay and unless the GOP wants to disappear as a national party, it has to come to terms with this historic fact and stop demonizing immigrants, all too easy to do when the economy is tanking.

  5. Steve on September 23, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    …has to come to terms with this historic fact and stop demonizing immigrants

    You are being willfully ignorant, Anne (probably "Jan")

    The big issue is about “ILLEGAL” foreign trespassers.

    Funny how you jellyfish cannot type the word “illegal” in front of immigrant

    Why is that? — oh right… the willful ignorance thing.
    :roll:

  6. cobra on September 23, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    This “illegal” reticence is the result of the leftist efforts during the past DECADES to make the Americans feel guilty for slavery, for which we are no guilty whatsoever, for our high standard of living and so forth.
    It is a tactic discussed by past KGB defectors who spoke about that agency’s efforts to impose communism upon the USA.
    You can search the web for videos and articles if you do not believe me.

  7. itsagreatcountry on September 23, 2011 at 3:57 pm

    Thank God people are finally starting to realize what an important issue illegal immigration is. And are finally discussing it with some gravity and reason. It is our last hope for our country’s culture, language and economy, not to mention fairness to its own people, that a non-squish on illegal immigration enforcement and holding the line on amnesty is nominated. If the floodgates are opened, we are sunk.

  8. Those weren't bran muffins, Brainiac... on September 23, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    There is still a long time before November.

    Let’s talk about what candidates we like instead of pointing out the best arguments for Democrats to use against a GOP candidate…

    For example, which one is best on immigration?

  9. cobra on September 23, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    I must credit polipundit, who stood steadfast during the Bush years and against his policies re. illegals, and was among the VERY few bloggers on the right having the balls to do so.
    I will forever follow him for that reason.

  10. anonymous un-RINO on September 23, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    Yeah, but anybody who believes RINO Mitt the flipflopping squish about illegals needs to have their head examined. That guy is running his mouth about how tough he is, but he’ll go the other way in a heartbeat. Plus he loves the global warming scam, and ObomneyCare, which he and Teddy wrote. He tried to out-Left Ted Kennedy. Don’t ever forget that.

    Perry loves La Raza, and will probably run for president of Mexico next, but let’s not elevate bad candidates just because Perry sucks.

    Make these guys swallow their words, on every bit of their apostasy. Make them knuckle under, and admit their mistakes. That’s the only way. That’s the only chance you have to control their behavior. If you approve it, you get Bush’s Medicare Part D and No Child Left Behind, and massive spending increases. They’ll do what they campaign on, unless you make them eat those words now.

    Ram it all up their ass, now. Global warming, La Raza, RomneyCare… whatever. Ram it up their ass.

  11. Brittanicus on September 23, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    Texas Governor Rick Perry obviously doesn’t realize that any benefits for illegal aliens, whether it’s the $100.000 tuition fee in the University of Texas or any number public assistance programs is just a tremendous draw to foreign persons, from across borders or a visitor’s visa ticket from anywhere abroad. Anything that is free is going to entice people, especially when their own country is corrupt or have no interest in gaining support from its people. What is seriously unconstitutional is giving advantages to illegal children over the rights of citizen children, who must pay full tuition as out of state students. In yesterday’s melee, this became a highlighted issue of extraordinary importance to the audience. In a partnership with YouTube and Fox News featured the Republican Presidential Primary candidates in a debate answering questions from the online community.

    Perry was confronted by boos, and hecklers who gave no-quarter to this seemingly special preference to the children of illegal aliens. Senator McCain in 2007 felt the brunt of this condemnation, for the passage of a “Path to Citizenship” and equally abhorrent his pursuance of another mass amnesty. This immediately wrecked his chance of the Presidency, as his campaign money machine ground to a halt through this irrational agenda. Make no mistake that large majorities of the Hispanic people are not going to fall in this political trap, as hundreds of thousands do not believe in pandering to the illegal immigrant onslaught. Like all Americans their jobs are in jeopardy as well, as it is for Latino’s, Blacks, Whites, Asians and others who qualify as lawful residents. The TEA PARTY doesn’t condone any type of official pardon, for those who stole into our country. Voicing her opinion, Bachmann said: “We will not have taxpayer-subsidized benefits for illegal immigrants or their children.” She pledged to build a fence along the U.S.-Mexican border, a shift that Perry opposes. In the latest report surveyed by (FAIR) Federation of American Immigration Reform, Texas is subsidizing illegal aliens with 4.7 billion annually in contributions from its taxpayers.

    These payments cover education, medical care and incarceration that are just one state forced by the federal courts in unfunded mandates. Fair states, “State and local taxes paid by the unauthorized immigrant population go toward offsetting these costs, but they do not come near to matching the expenses. The total of such payments can generously be estimated at slightly less than $1 billion per year.” In addition Fair acknowledged, “The fiscal costs of illegal immigration do not end with these three major cost areas. The total costs of illegal immigration to the state’s taxpayers would be considerably higher if other cost areas such as special English instruction, welfare programs used by the U.S.-born children of illegal aliens, or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal alien workers were also calculated.

    All 50 states are burdened by illegal immigrant costs, but in ratio the Sanctuary State of California beats them all, with a rising entitlement program of $9 Billion. Californians should not be expected to presume this already large and growing encumber from illegal immigration simply since businesses or other special interests benefit from being able to employ lower cost workers. In all the Heritage Foundation has analyzed a cost projection of every state, with an inclusion of federal funding–but not limited to $113 Billion dollars a year. All this money taken from the American taxpayers pay check. Even more astounding is the US government allowing illegal workers, to send an average of $46 billion dollars out of the country, to foreign banks?

    Rick Perry may have cooked his own goose, for as a Governor of a state he should be protecting his citizens and legal populace. Giving out taxpayer dollars to foreigner’s children is not just a Texas issue. There is no doubt in the TEA PARTY ticket, illegal immigration is going to take center stage, next to jobs and our wilting economy. Rep. Lamar smith is correct, when he impressed on the issue of his mandatory E-Verify proposal in Congress, this an imminent in vote right now, “That the only people losing their jobs–will be illegal aliens.” Of course the usual radical voices are raised, as critics opposing this Historical Immigration Bill, H.R. 2885 are searching for any loophole to drag it down. They are using what inflammatory rhetoric or lies they can muster against the passage of E-Verify “the Legal Workforce Act.” First they contest it that legal American workers could be turned away in being hired. So that person just addresses that grievance by going to their local Social security office; illegal aliens will stay well clear of this agency. None of the media will inform their readership of this?

    Following through with this is an expensive proposition for small businesses, when it’s a simple computer generated program and cost nothing to operate. The usual suspects are behind this bombardment of hoping to terrorize the people with this verbal garbage. Adverse entities such as Tea Party Nation or Tea Party Express have limited influence on the millions of in the Tea Party members, who want to see our 1986 Immigration laws severely enforced. They also want the instant citizenship law amended, so billions of dollars are not going to parents of these babies snuck into the United States, so they can get free hospital care, free housing, free food stamps and cash payments for every child. The misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment, has given 300.000 children at an annual rate for illegal parents, free access to the American people’s welfare safety-net.

    The people who vote in 2012 have probably the hardest selection in choosing a new president. Obama’s immigration enforcement was on the right track, until he began issuing executive orders and not complying with the “Rule of Law.” After all Liberal oriented presidents think they are not subject to the US Constitution. The job of his administration is to deport–ALL–illegal aliens, not select who can stay, because they hadn’t committed a crime. The next man/women in the White House must follow the law, which has been manipulated successfully by the public servants in the Dept of Justice. They should not be intimidated by the Church, unions, business, giant agricultural corporation, farmers or the open border groups. Instead of trying to undermine financially hurting states from converging crowds of illegal immigrants, they should be enforcing the laws in the border regions, where states like Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico are in constant conflict with drug cartels and the tracks of foreigners moving Northwards in to America.

    Who amongst presidential contenders will really fit the bill, to beat Obama later next year? Businessman Herman Cain, a true partier who has a great plans and addressing the crippling Tax code, we have now and so does Bachmann? Being that illegal immigration has become an oppressive financial problem, finding the best candidate with an antidote is not for former for Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and former New Mexico Gov. Gary Johnson, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, Ron Paul as they have little to say about this controversial battle that is unceasing.

    We can all stand with our fellow jobless countryman by Calling House and Senate Leadership NOW Call the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121. In winding up, Arizona, Georgia, Alabama and other states have been persecuted by Dept of Justice Eric holder and his mob. All these states need our help from years of a neglected border and the flow of–ECONOMIC–foreign nationals. Don’t take my word for the facts, as you can find the ugly truth of the illegal settlement at NumbersUSA that has been forced upon us for over thirty years. There have been 6 additional hidden small Amnesties and the clandestine importation of millions of semi-skilled workers that have arrive here every year, in competition from US workers high paying jobs. Other websites that will deliver the facts about the criminal element, with wide ranging access to the E-media is American Patrol.

  12. Steve on September 24, 2011 at 6:56 am

    “Let’s talk about what candidates we like instead of pointing out the best arguments for Democrats to use against a GOP candidate…”
    — TWBM,B

    Absolutely Not!… sorry, but it’s just naïve to think liberals aren’t ALREADY going to run the most negative smear campaign in history. With 0bama, libs have NOTHING to run on but failure, after failure, after failure…
    …This so-called strategy that you keep trumpeting (of ignoring such obvious flaws) will only get us a stuck with yet another weakling jellyfish ® like McAmnesty, in which case you get four more years of failure-boy, 0′Zero.
    :roll:
    — — — — — — —

    “Make these guys swallow their words, on every bit of their apostasy. Make them knuckle under, and admit their mistakes. That’s the only way. That’s the only chance you have to control their behavior.”
    — unRINO

    EXACTLY Right! I’m glad there are some who get it :wink:

    This “anybody but 0bama” crap is what got us stuck with McAmnesty.
    …and now, the same “anybody but 0bama” crap will get you McPerry.

    How many times do the weakling jellyfish ®’s have to be called “Racist”, or “Heartless” by the Lindsey Graham’s, John McCain’s, Rino Perry’s of the GOP before they finally wake-up and realize that THEY WORK FOR US…? And, they’d better damned well get on board with what the majority of the base wants or we’ll primary their sorry Rino asses out of existence.

    Do you weakling jellyfish ®’s not remember Bush’s “See you at the bill signing” arrogance that nearly permanently opened the floodgates of illegals on this country, which would have been even more disastrous than 0Zero’s abysmal economy???

    WAKE UP you jellyfish ®’s and stop cowering in fear!!
    …DEMAND a strong Conservative for once in your life instead of quivering in fear with more of the same crap that gets you defeated every time.

    Sheesh!
    :roll:

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