Procedural Problems
More procedural tangles:
“The most important is that, based on reconciliation instructions, the “fix” bill must be shown to reduce the deficit by at least $1 billion. The challenge is, that’s after assuming that the Senate bill is law. In other words, the reconciliation bill can’t claim any of the deficit reduction from the Senate bill, but rather it must reduce the deficit relative to the Senate bill. Yet the changes that are being talked about will cost a lot of money. This includes eliminating the “Cornhusker kickback” and offering enhanced Medicaid subsidies to all states, increasing subsidies for the purchase of insurance, eliminating the so-called “donut hole” on Medicare prescription drug benefits, and whatever else they put in the bill. At the same time, delaying until 2018 the enactment of the “Cadillac tax” would be scored as a reduction in revenue, and thus add further to the deficit.”
(via The Corner)
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March 16th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
The just need to change the procedure, and Deem the change as passed.
Nothing to see here…
March 16th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
When Republicans win a landslide in November, will be fun to see wingnuts do a complete 180 on reconciliation and filibusters.
March 16th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
When Republicans win a landslide in November, will be fun to see wingnuts do a complete 180 on reconciliation and filibusters.
~~jake
Exactamundo~~the ditch carp will be crying a different tune when their diminutive balls are on the anvil of retribution.
March 16th, 2010 at 2:47 pm
and wingnut hypocrisy shall be in full bloom.
oh, they shall too cry for bipartisanship when that veto pen rears its ugly head
March 16th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Why Jake, you almost make me believe you give a damn about the GOP and all those bitter clingers in flyover country…
March 16th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Just predicting the future. Well, except the landslide comment. That was being facetious. One will never go broke betting on Republican hypocrisy.
March 16th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
March 16th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
When Republicans win a landslide in November, will be fun to see wingnuts do a complete 180 on reconciliation and filibusters.
~~jake
Amended:
March 16th, 2010 at 2:40 pm
When Republicans win a landslide in November, will be fun to see lefty moonbats do a complete 180 on reconciliation and filibusters.
~~jake
March 16th, 2010 at 4:41 pm
It will be fun repealing obammacare using budget recon.or “deeming” it so.
March 16th, 2010 at 4:49 pm
National Debt Up $2 Trillion on Obama’s Watch
CBS
March 16th, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Toomey 49%
Specter 40%
RAS
March 16th, 2010 at 5:13 pm
- “It will be fun repealing obammacare using budget recon.or “deeming” it so.” – Oh, I’d just love to see that. Republicans running on the premise of taking away the benefits that come on day 1 of this bill being passed. You go right ahead and tell people that you want to give insurnace companies the right to drop folks when they gets sick, give them the right to manufacture pre-conditions as a ruse to deny coverage, and allow insurers the right to set lifetime caps. That’s going to be a real winner of a platform. You should start on the ads today.
March 16th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Don’t you dumb asses know that it is the purpose of this phony HC crap is to put the private insurance companies out of business, so the only thing left will be your beloved “public option”. At which time, some non elected bureaucrat will be dictating your medical care, and they will decide who and what to cover.
If you don’t like insurance companies, don’t buy the insurance, asshole.
March 16th, 2010 at 5:34 pm
I thought Americans were “overwhelmingly opposed”. A new WSJ (conservative newspaper) poll says 46% want is passed and 45% do not. That doesn’t sound too “overwhelming” to me.
March 16th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
A new WSJ (conservative newspaper) poll says 46% want is passed and 45% do not. That doesn’t sound too “overwhelming” to me.
……
LIAR
March 16th, 2010 at 5:44 pm
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/03/16/nbc-poll-after-nine-months-public-still-doesnt-like-obamacare/
March 16th, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Massachusetts Treasurer: Dems healthcare plan will ‘bankrupt the country in four years’…
Boston Globe
March 16th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
There was a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called
the Old South . . . Here in this pretty world Gallantry took its last
bow . . . Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their
Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave . . . Look for it only in books,
for it is no more than a dream remembered.
A Civilization gone with the wind . . .
March 16th, 2010 at 6:50 pm
Here we go. Liberals starting to talk about the Old South. Bring it home, people. Melt the Congressional switchboard (better yet, call their home district directly). A couple of sites (ie. hughhewitt.com ) have all the contact info you need.
March 16th, 2010 at 7:24 pm
LIAR — artist
Speaking of liars, got that poll for me yet?
March 16th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
- “Don’t you dumb asses know that it is the purpose of this phony HC crap is to put the private insurance companies out of business, so the only thing left will be your beloved “public option”.” – Sure, that’s why the bill mandates that everyone – especially young healthy people who never get sick – buy private health insurance. Charging young healthy people who never get sick for insurance, yeah, that’ll run the insurers into the poor house. And BTW, screw private insurers – if you haven’t found out already, you soon will, they don’t give a tinker’s damn about you. Get sick and you’ll see. Have you been watching your premiums and co-pays over the last 15 yrs? These are the people you’re defending.
- “At which time, some non elected bureaucrat will be dictating your medical care, and they will decide who and what to cover.” – Wake up, dummy. You already got that now. Only he’s not a non-elected bureaucat, he’s a highly compensated suit who gets bonuses to come up with ways to deny you care when you need it the most. How’s this better? These are the same suits that nearly destroyed the country with their greed last year and you trust them with your life? What’s the definition of insanity?
March 17th, 2010 at 4:34 am
Ah, MikeyW, the fascist who wants to suppress all freedom of conscience to comply with government mandated morality is back.
Fascist.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:35 am
These are the same suits that nearly destroyed the country with their greed last year and you trust them with your life?
You mean Barney Frank and Chris Dodd?
Fascist.
March 17th, 2010 at 4:39 am
And BTW, screw private insurers – if you haven’t found out already, you soon will, they don’t give a tinker’s damn about you. Get sick and you’ll see. Have you been watching your premiums and co-pays over the last 15 yrs?
Massachusetts nightmare
Ass. Fascist.
March 17th, 2010 at 5:11 am
Speaking of liars, got that poll for me yet?
….
I linked it right away. Look above.
You see, it was also with NBC.
You left that out too.
March 17th, 2010 at 6:02 am
And the kind all-knowing, all-loving, all caring conservative throws around the word Fascist.
He is so confident in his knowledge. His world and outlook is secure.
But, his ideals will never be realized, because he is an extremist.
March 17th, 2010 at 8:20 am
“Speaking of liars, got that poll for me yet?”
Jake
“I linked it right away. Look above. You see, it was also with NBC. You left that out too.” Artist
Couldn’t figure that one out by Jake, either. Like I said, they just move on when the facts don’t suit them. However, you know you have them on the run when you hear them shouting “extremists, haters and the Old South” (nevermind that it was run by the Democratic Party).
March 17th, 2010 at 8:39 am
“Indies are going GOP 3-1 all over the country.” – Artist
That poll, jackass.
March 17th, 2010 at 11:42 am
- “Ah, MikeyW, the fascist who wants to suppress all freedom of conscience to comply with government mandated morality is back.” – You should look up the word fascist – it doesn’t mean what you think.
- “You mean Barney Frank and Chris Dodd?” – Maybe you can explain exactly what they did to bring the ecomony down. Maybe you can explain how they created mortgaged backed securities and credit default swaps. Or not. Maybe you’re just full of shit.
Massachusetts Nightmare – Yes, it’s such a nightmare that a whopping 11% of MA residents want to get rid of it. It’s such a nightmare that your rising star Senator Brown voted for it and swears by it – but he doesn’t want anyone else to have it.