The Senate Rulz!
By PoliPundit ~ March 11th, 2010 @ 1:06 pm
The Senate parliamentarian has ruled that Democrats cannot pass a reconciliation package to “fix” Obamacare, unless Obamacare has first been passed by the House and signed into law by the president.
House Democrats will thus be forced to vote on Obamacare without any guarantee that the “fixes” they want will acutally happen. I wouldn’t want to be a House Democrat right now…
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March 11th, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Boy, I hope he doesn’t shower in the house gym….
March 11th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Somehow in liberal minds this will now become some Republican “dirty trick”.
March 11th, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Somehow in liberal minds this will now become some Republican “dirty trick”.
Projection. Our side doesn’t have that level of paranoia.
March 11th, 2010 at 4:59 pm
Actually jerky you or one of your cohorts actually used that exact term in another thread. You know Republican “tricks” like holding up swearing in a Republican Senator for weeks which just happened in the last month or so, negotiating in private, behind closed doors like which is happening,AGAIN, right now or what the House Dems are talking about doing-deeming a bill to be passed without voting on it. Now be quiet.
March 11th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
“Projection. Our side doesn’t have that level of paranoia”
Excuse me?
After 8 years of everything being blamed on Republican Dirty Tricks? So much so Daily Kos coined the term “Rovian”?
I spend some time there, too…usually right before I get in the shower.
March 11th, 2010 at 5:50 pm
usually right before I get in the shower.
Too Rahmian.
March 11th, 2010 at 6:07 pm
“Too Rahmian.”
Shoots he scores…opened myself up for that one, touche’
March 11th, 2010 at 6:38 pm
Damn… you still got me with that one. Now I’m stuck trying to work in Tickle fight, and I’ve got nothing.
Guess I’m calling it for the night….
March 11th, 2010 at 11:01 pm
Jake – “Our side doesn’t have that level of paranoia.”
Perhaps not….it’s just that you are not very bright.
“Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen”
Friday, March 12, 2010 Washington Post
“Bluntly put, this is the political reality:
First, the battle for public opinion has been lost. Comprehensive health care has been lost. If it fails, as appears possible, Democrats will face the brunt of the electorate’s reaction. If it passes, however, Democrats will face a far greater calamitous reaction at the polls. Wishing, praying or pretending will not change these outcomes.”
“A solid majority of Americans opposes the massive health-reform plan. Four-fifths of those who oppose the plan strongly oppose it, according to Rasmussen polling this week, while only half of those who support the plan do so strongly. Many more Americans believe the legislation will worsen their health care, cost them more personally and add significantly to the national deficit. Never in our experience as pollsters can we recall such self-deluding misconstruction of survey data.”
Let’s face facts…on every major issue from the Cold War onward, you guys have been spectacularly wrong (not that consequences ever concerned you).
And you’re still giving advice!
March 12th, 2010 at 5:06 am
“….on every major issue from the Cold War onward, you guys have been spectacularly wrong (not that consequences ever concerned you).”
LOL Spike-
I remember Joe Biden opposing Reagan every step of the way for fear he might upset the Russians(wrong call), Biden opposing Desert Storm (wrong Call) etc…
The guy was always on the wrong side of history, and yet he was /is considered “great Foreign Policy mind of the Democratic Party”…
March 12th, 2010 at 7:34 am
And remember when Ronald Reagan called rthe USSR “an evil empire” and how the progs went nuts about a coming holocaust? An then the USSR fell apart, and Russian scholars discovered things like Stalin’s murder of between 20,000,000 and 30,000,000 USSR citizens between 1934 and 1938?
And then, the independent Ukraine petitioned the Nobel committee to revoke the NYTimes’ Nobel prize because its glorification of Stalin’s USSR in the 1930s was a bunch of lies, and that Stalin had murdered 20,000,000 Ukrainians alone?
What do you know…it WAS an evil empire! Progs were wrong again…and supported brutality in the name of human dignity…AGAIN. Dolts.
March 12th, 2010 at 7:39 am
In college, I teacher forced us to watch a Nightline Town Hall + the horrible made-for-TV movie “The Morning After”meeting about the pending Armageddon Reagan was going to unleash. LOL . Yeah, I have those idiots (Biden, Kennedy)”seared in my brain” babbling about Nuclear Winters when we deployed Pershings in Western Europe, or the Vietnam we were about to engage in before Deseert Storm. And who can forget the predictions of doom before Welfare Reform in ’96. Anyone remember how homelessness apparently ceased to exist the day George Bush I was defeated. Man man global warming anyone? The “50 Million” uninsured?. “Blood for Oil?”
With these guys, the issues are merely a means to an end. People like Pluto, McRock actually don’t really believe in anything other than the centralization of power. Their causes and defenders are selected upon their manipulation value and are just as readily cast aside when the public, through slow and persistent logic, catches on to the nonsense.
March 12th, 2010 at 7:47 am
Well said, The Geezer. Their causes and heros tend to result to gulags or “cleansings” of some sort.
March 12th, 2010 at 8:30 am
Spike-
I was a Young GI waiting and raring to go in the Desert, I will never forget watching the (taped) vote in the Senate on the Resolution of if we were able to go or not. We all knew our quickest way home was across the border- and watched my fine, fairly conservative Democrat Sen David Boren(OK) vote NO.
Wrote him a letter that night, apparently a lot of people did- he didn’t run for reelection.
Last D I ever voted for in a National level office.
Now OK is represented by Coburn and Inhofe, the best Senator delegation in the country.
I live in Texas now, but I still follow things back home pretty close.
March 12th, 2010 at 9:29 am
Gerry Owen – LOL, Boren, what a weasel. What was the liberal spin then? A “vote of conscience” or somesuch tripe. And with soldiers waiting on the front line! Thanks for your service. You guys performed brilliantly.
March 12th, 2010 at 11:40 am
I offer my thanks as well, Gerry Owen.
March 12th, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Let’s face facts…on every major issue from the Cold War onward, you guys have been spectacularly wrong
Except that flawless run we had during the 2000-2008 period. Oh, and voodoo economics – under both moronic presidents.
March 12th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
Yeah, the spending increases you ushered after the 2006 congressional takeover is really paying dividends…….oh wait……wtf…….my children and unborn grandchildren will be paying that! Just another catastrophic Democratic ooops. No worries, mate!
March 12th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
You’re serious about comparing Reagan’s economic record to Obama’s?
March 12th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
No, I’m saying we were the opposite of “spectacularly wrong” concerning Reaganomics.
But we can revisit your comparison after Obama’s 8 years. Let’s see if the next president is forced to have a “read my lips” moment.
March 13th, 2010 at 5:59 am
No, you guys were “spectacularly wrong” concerning Reaganomics. Never would have had the 25 years of practically uninterupted growth with out it. Please refer to what Mondale and Carter were proposing. Heck, check out their track records.
Funny thing about George the I’s “read my lips” moment was that it was another Democratic tax increase that was being hawked by the Democratic Congressional Leadership (yeah, “the more things change….the more they……”). George’s Chief of Staff, John Sununu, misguidedly convinced George that it would be a good compromise with the Democratic Majority to raise the TOP tax bracket from 28% to 31%, not realizing that they would then use it against him. The fact that it was the top income bracket (“for the “rich”) or the fact that it was a compromise with the Dems to get Democratic support for the budget package) is never mentioned. In reality, the Dems in true opportunistic fashion are like that scene in Animal House where Otter says to Flounder after wrecking his car, “You fucked up, you trusted us”.