A republic, if you can take it back
By W.C. Varones ~ July 4th, 2009 @ 5:54 am
Happy 4th of July, everybody.
Free-market capitalism has been replaced by a disgusting blend of crony capitalism and socialism, and democracy is on the ropes.
Let’s reflect this Independence Day on what America really means, and how we can start taking it back.
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July 4th, 2009 at 6:38 am
This cannot be taken back without a forced regime change. Our government is so corrupt, so evil, and so useless, the only hope we have is to completely dismantle it and assert The Constitution of the United States of America by force. I don’t know many willing to join such an effort.
July 4th, 2009 at 6:44 am
We are on the cusp of giving the government the power to tax what we exhale, to essentially label each and every one of us as “polluters”. To be free is to breathe the free air- not regulated in every aspect of life.
Our forefathers fought for freedom, died for their God given rights to speak their minds (hate speech or not), worship (ESPECIALLY in schools), and to keep what they had earned through hard work.
The also recognized that it was essential for free men to be able to defend themselves from totalitarianism- the 2d Amendment.
We are in abysmal shape, the economy is being wrecked before our eyes, every tinpot dunderheaded dictator around the world has realized Obama is nothing to fear, and our allies are becoming estranged. Her at home we are growing government at a rate unprecedented in the history of man. There are “Czars” for everything (have any of these idiots studied Russian History? Czars for the most part were pretty horrible, Peter the Great was an exception).
This spiral will end- but where? Will we be able to pick up the pieces? is this repairable?
July 4th, 2009 at 8:21 am
We are not worthy of our founders sacrifice. We care more about Michael Jackson’s funeral than what our leaders are doing.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:55 am
W.C. and Poli,
“Walk the walk” and do your part by booting JokeLeaf!
July 4th, 2009 at 9:43 am
When you have the Pravda like media covering for 0bama at every turn of course a majority of Americans will think he is doing a great job. So not enough Americans see our freedoms being taken away. Perhaps by the time a majority wake up it will be too late. Got to enjoy our independence while it lasts I suppose.
July 4th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Let’s start “taking it back” by finding a good GOP candidate for the first time since 1992.
Nobody out there cuts mustard. Jindal seemed promising but he’s a disaster. At least we don’t have to worry about Palin embarrassing us any longer.
Isn’t there an intelligent, secular Republican candidate out there NOT named Newt Gingrich? Does EVERY damn GOP candidate have to be a Religious freak?
July 4th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Meanwhile we have a president who touts his Islamic roots.
July 4th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Pence, Flake, Coburn, DeMint, McClintock.
I don’t know if any of those guys have the star power to be a Presidential nominee, but they have the principles I’m looking for: rock solid fiscal credentials. Most of those guys are probably religious, but I don’t even know which ones because they don’t lead off with their religion, which is as it should be in a secular democracy, and which is also how to get elected in a 50/50 country.
July 5th, 2009 at 6:49 am
WC: Mclintock’s a moron! He’s done nothing in his whole life except suck off the govt teat — one of those ‘conservatives’ who cant stand govt but cant stand to be away from it. He’s done abolsutely nothing in 25+ years of politics except vote no.
He’s no leader – he a flunkie.
July 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
The only way the GOP is going to win is if conservatives can accept a candidate with one moderate stance.
Otherwise they all go running for a third party because of one disagreement.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Hmmm ya the professional politicians are no good.
I hope Paul runs again even though he probably wouldn’t win. Or perhaps Gerry Johnson. I guess Sanford would be my third favorite candidate (for lack of other good choices), but I doubt he will be running now dot dot.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Palin wrote an essay on her facebook page about why she is leaving the governor’s office so soon after obtaining it.
“The response in the main stream media has been most predictable, ironic, and as always, detached from the lives of ordinary Americans who are sick of the “politics of personal destruction”. How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it’s about country. And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But every American understands what it takes to make a decision because it’s right for all, including your family.”-Palinesign. Palin would NOT have lasted very long as a Vice President. At leas
In essence: blame Katie Couric. She forced Sarah Palin to rt Bush was able to take the heat so he apparently knew what he was getting himself into when he seized power and control over people’s lives by force.
July 5th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
repost to fix error.
Palin wrote an essay on her facebook page about why she is leaving the governor’s office so soon after obtaining it.
“The response in the main stream media has been most predictable, ironic, and as always, detached from the lives of ordinary Americans who are sick of the “politics of personal destruction”. How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it’s about country. And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But every American understands what it takes to make a decision because it’s right for all, including your family.” -Palin
In essence: blame Katie Couric. She forced Sarah Palin to resign. She would NOT have lasted very long as a Vice President. At least Bush was able to take the heat so apparently knew what he was getting himself into when he seized power and control over people’s lives by force.
July 5th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
A new week starts tomorrow – what new tales will unfold in the ongoing saga of GOP Corruption and Adultery?
Will Palin be frogmarched over Housegate?
Will another Family Values/Promise Keeper Governor declare that he has a mistress and a party in his pants?
Stay tuned!
July 5th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Huckabee says he’s not sure that Palin could handle running for president.
July 5th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
“Moderate Huckabee?”
Is that what they call the religious left now?
July 5th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
John Cornyn goes to July fourth Austin Tea Party Rally and gets loudly booed by the crowd. Click ahead to around minute 3.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Pluto,
No, it will be just another demo/lib trying to financially screw the country, taking everyone down with it – but you libs will cheer while it happens.
Ignorance thy name is democrat.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Here’s an idea: since this is turned into a RINO website, why not run someone who is two-faced and wants to turn the GOP into Dem Lite? Someone like David Frum would be ideal. Obviously, it can’t be Frum because he was born in Canada, but you get the idea.
Less than a year ago, Poli threads with 100 or more comments were common. Today ….
W.C., you’re this site’s only hope.
July 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Bill Kristol is toting this as Palin’s great path forward.
Kristol knows Palin is done, but he wants to suck up to some of these super-duper Palin supporters since he knows that she is done anyways so might as well dupe as many Palin supporters into your ring while there is the opportunity.
July 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
BTW- the States are prohibited from printing their own currencies I think.
I wonder if California’s IOU notes count. I doubt it but maybe.
July 5th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
asscroso still plagues this site?
July 5th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
When is Poli going to ban acroso? Every self-respecting website on the Internet already has.
July 5th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Acroso -
“BTW- the States are prohibited from printing their own currencies I think.
I wonder if California’s IOU notes count. I doubt it but maybe.”
It’s called scrip you idiot. Cities and states have been using it since the Great Depression, if not earlier. Ron Paul is the “Losers’ Loser” and I understand that in his heart of hearts he really hates gays.
July 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Test since my Colin Powell article didn’t appear twice on here.
July 5th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Why my Detroit News link on Colin Powell wouldn’t work twice this afternoon while the test post worked for me just now?
Anyways here is another link that says Colin Powell regrets voting for the Annointed One:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/03/powell-airs-doubts-on-obama-agenda/
This just proves how dumb Colin Powell was and is since anyone with half a brain would realize that the Annointed One is just trying to carry out his sociallist agenda that Colin voted for.
July 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
George Will says Palin is a quitter.
Most of the rest of the right is staying silent though.
July 5th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Funny how George Will wants to make Palin a quitter since she resignsd for office. She would have had to regign from being Alaskan governor if she would have been elected Vice President as well. So is George Will stating that she would been a quitter if she was elected to higher office since she would have failed to carry out her full term as governor?
My only problem with Palin is that I consider her a socailist as well due to hiking the oil taxes and then giving away the money back to the people. This is liking hiking taxes like the donkeys do only the donkeys like to spend the money on more restrictive gov’t programs.
After all the ethics complaints filed against her I have no problem with her resigning since she isn’t super rich. Alaska (and all the other states as well after this example) needs a new ethics law that says that anyone filing a complaint that is dropped has to pay the other person’s attorney fees besides getting hit wtih a $500,000 fine for filing a bogus complaint.
July 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Former Guantánamo detainee Binyam Mohamed launches legal effort to stop destruction of Bush-era torture pictures. You know the falsely imprisoned guy who endured 7 YEARS of penis and scrotum torture (really.)
July 5th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
“One of them took my penis in his hand and began to make cuts. He did it once, and they stood still for maybe a minute, watching my reaction. I was in agony. They must have done this 20 to 30 times, in maybe two hours. There was blood all over. “I told you I was going to teach you who’s the man,” [one] eventually said.
They cut all over my private parts. One of them said it would be better just to cut it off, as I would only breed terrorists.
Binyam’s experiences in the “Dark Prison” were also horrific. The prison was a facsimile of a medieval dungeon, but with the addition of painfully loud music, which was blasted into the cells 24 hours a day. Speaking of his time there, he said,
It was pitch black, and no lights on in the rooms for most of the time … They hung me up for two days. My legs had swollen. My wrists and hands had gone numb … There was loud music, Slim Shady and Dr. Dre for 20 days. I heard this non-stop over and over, I memorized the music, all of it, when they changed the sounds to horrible ghost laughter and Halloween sounds. It got really spooky in this black hole … Interrogation was right from the start, and went on until the day I left there. The CIA worked on people, including me, day and night. Plenty lost their minds. I could hear people knocking their heads against the walls and the doors, screaming their heads off … Throughout my time I had all kinds of music, and irritating sounds, mentally disturbing. I call it brainwashing.
At the end of this ordeal, Binyam said he made a number of false confessions about his involvement with al-Qaeda and a plot to detonate a radioactive “dirty bomb” in New York, which came about as a direct result of his torture in Morocco and at the hands of CIA agents in Afghanistan.”
July 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
This is the guy who was responsible for all those “dirty bomb” rumors in 2003-04 all over the Fox News network.
He wanted them to stop mutilating his genitals so he confessed to all sorts of new stuff to put on the Americans News outlets.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:09 am
You seem obsessed with that guys genitals.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Well, Monday is here. The world markets slumping bad. The DOW down 30 points. The DOW down over 550 points since June 12th when it hit about 8800. Economist (including Biden-who really isn’t an economist) are telling us things are worse than they thought and we’re still going downward. Jobs continue to be lost all over. The debt seems to grow daily. What comes after a trillion? IS it possible for Obama to hit Quadrillion? Some people never thought they’d see a trillion debt.
SO—–Where is Oak Leaf with his signs of spring and the great economic recovery that he has been preaching for months? Maybe Red Lobster has some good news for us. Maybe McDonalds or Burger King.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Some people never thought they’d see a trillion debt.
Reagan proved that debt doesn’t matter. He was a great believer in tax and spend Presidency.
IS it possible for Obama to hit Quadrillion?
Gotta love the cut-and-run GOP, pretend that all the problems originated with Obama rather than Bush.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Gotta love the idiot dems, pretending all the problems we face now are a result of GW Bush, while exonerating the present man child who is slowly but surely destroying the wealth producing industries in this country through excessive taxation, destructive environmental policies, and incredibly high deficit spending never seen before in this country’s history. Throw in “universal healthcare” proven not to work where it’s been tried, and you have a recipe for disaster written, produced and directed by Prezident Obomba.
July 6th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Good point from The Corner:
The Upside of California [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
It may stop Obama. Kevin Hassett today:
With the price tag of Obama-care likely to exceed $1 trillion, moderate Democrats face a simple choice. They can jump off the cliff with the president, or they can stay true to the principles that they have espoused throughout their careers.
My only complaint about her post: dems don’t have principles, that way they can get away with anything they want.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:34 am
“Reagan proved that debt doesn’t matter. He was a great believer in tax and spend Presidency.”
As a percentage of the GDP Reagan’s debt was smaller than Obama’s:
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
As one can see despite the common belief that it was Taft Hartley that created the Great Depression, it really was the debt as a percentage of the GDP that caused the economy to collapse.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:44 am
“As one can see despite the common belief that it was Taft Hartley that created the Great Depression.”
This is interesting, since Taft-Hartley was not passed until 1947. I wonder who commonly believes that? I think you mean Smoot-Hawley, which was the tarriff bill commonly understood to have worsened the depression.
July 6th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Thanks for the correction.
One of donkeyville’s all time heroes, Robert McNamara, has died.
July 6th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Nice link there, Ralph E., arguing that Bush got us into the Great Depression II.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:06 am
You are misinterpreting the chart since it has gone straight up since the Annointed One has taken office.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:50 am
You are misinterpreting the chart since it has gone straight up since the Annointed One has taken office.
Correction, straight up since Bush was in office.
Besides, I learned from the Blowhard One here that Presidents can’t affect the economy. Oh, that was when Bush was in office…never mind.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
can I get a tag that reads:
“The planet has no use of this idiot, send Acroso to Outer Space”?
July 6th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
INteresting – On Real Clear Politics going back to Feb. 6th (exactly 5 months). Obama’s negative rating has gone up from 21.4% to 36% disapproval. A nice drop of 14.6% in the eyes of Americans.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Pluto must be blind since it gradually went up under Bush. It has gone straight up under the Annointed One’s watch.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Pluto, who you are referring to that said Presidents can’t effect the economy since I’ve never said that?
July 6th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Pluto must be blind since it gradually went up under Bush. It has gone straight up under the Annointed One’s watch.
Ralph E., the blue line on the graph refers to the beginning of Obama’s term. Take a ruler and mark off ticks for each year on the X-axis, you will see that the skyrocket is largely Bush’s term.
As for the Blowhard One, it is not you.
He claimed never to have been wrong.
Which was so hilarious.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Ralph E … you have to give Pluto credit on this one….he pointed out the exact problem. The graph shows exactly that the debt has skyrocketed since 2006, when the Dems took over Congress. Thank you Pluto!
July 6th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
The graph shows exactly that the debt has skyrocketed since 2006, when the Dems took over Congress.
Nobody is more lilly white blameless than a nutter rightwing conservative. They have even coined a term, “RHINO”, to further insulate themselves from accepting a role in hard times.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Lily.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Hell…Pluto you pointed this out. You can take all the credit for it. You were blaming Bush…and I actually quite agree Bush and the Republican Congress deserve some of the blame. But…the explosion in debt ratio occurred specifically under a Democratic Congress…the graph does not lie…it was a Democrat Congress that did nothing for two budget cycles except blame Bush…. Dems raped Fannie and Freddie, they created Credit Default Swaps and they did nothing for two budget cycles except try to destroy the economy….and then another budget cycle came and went and in this budget cycle…$5.3 TRILLION…signed by Obama. Thank you for the pointer’s on the graph…..You are such so damned smart!
July 6th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Budahmon, the graph refers to Presidents, according to Ralph E., but refers to Congresses, according to you.
What is shared in common is that both of you spout knee-jerk recitations of right-wing talking points, designed to defer blame to the Dems.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Flashback before she quit: Palin says that women complaining about ‘excess criticism’ don’t ‘do us any good.’
That was then, but now back to the Katie-Couric blaming version…
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“The response in the main stream media has been most predictable, ironic, and as always, detached from the lives of ordinary Americans who are sick of the “politics of personal destruction”. How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it’s about country. And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But every American understands what it takes to make a decision because it’s right for all, including your family.” -Palin
July 6th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Texas Cowboy George Bush mounts Saddam’s gun in his new library as symbol of his awesomeness.
July 6th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Rep Bachman has apparently been reading Tom Woods book Meltdown, and Woods defends her in her from the Wonkette in this essay.
interesting
July 6th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
With the FBI stating there is no investigation of the Palins, I doubt we’ll be seeing Spencer around for a while.
It appears Poli is down to its last idiot (poster, not necessarily author). A man/woman/thing with multiple names and personalities plus a good share of trolls.
July 6th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
New ethics scandal allegations towards governor Palin.
Zane Henning — a conservative government watchdog from the governor’s hometown of Wasilla and an oilfield worker on Alaska’s North Slope — asserts in a letter to Alaska Attorney General Daniel S. Sullivan that Palin has “been charging and pocketing per diem to live in her home and has used the process for a personal gain since being elected.”
July 6th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
invalid10
I presume since it is allegations that everyone also presumes that she is innocent until proven guilty?
July 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Expect acroso to howl at the moon at any mention of Sarah Palin.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Sorta like Ted Stevens after all was said and done (including losing a close election) that there was nothing there and he was acquited.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
MI Conservative – I didn’t say she was guilty but just that there were more allegations. If all the others were frivolous, then I’d take the odds that this one might be too.
Huffingtonpost blogger Shannyn Moore interviewed about Governor Palin’s threat to sue her.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Expect Acroso to howl at the moon even if there’s no moon.
This is the only conservative site he hasn’t been banned from. For some unknown reason, people don’t like idiots.
July 6th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Pluto,
Where do I begin…I thought the graph was relating debt vs time. It just happens to show the president with relation to the years, but any intelligent individual could map changes in congress on the same graph. I guess it’s just too hard for your little mind to comprehend something so basic. Thus, here we have another leftist that doesn’t understand basic math.
BTW….You did not try to attack any one of my arguments because……you can’t! Another leftist poseur……
July 6th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I’ve read the back & forth on this thread, and in fact I do agree with Pluto – to a point. I am no defender of GW Bush. He started with great potential but squandered it. He definitely has had a hand in this economic downturn; his reckless liberal spending policies helped drive up the debt, aided & abetted all too easily by a democratic congress and republican lackeys who thought they could buy votes back home – and that experiment turned out really well… Bush was a social conservative, but a spendthrift liberal – and here we are. Now it’s obomba’s turn and what do we find, not “hope & change” but more of the same reckless spending- with a vengeance. We find an arrogant & petulant boy who is slowly but surely destroying the wealth producing industries in this country through excessive taxation, destructive environmental policies, and incredibly high deficit spending never seen before in this country’s history. Throw in “universal healthcare” proven not to work where it’s been tried, and you have a recipe for disaster written, produced and directed by Our Dear Beloved Man Child
July 6th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
From Powerline tonight:
“Long-term interest rates have indeed begun to rise. The Fed appears to be more or less complicit in the Obama administration’s scheme to run up debt that, as a percentage of GDP, is unprecedented except for the last year or two of World War II. Maybe someone in Congress–it would have to be a Republican–should ask Ben Bernanke whether he has some reason to disagree with the Fed’s own economist’s projections.
The Obama administration, with the enthusiastic connivance of the Democratic leadership in Congress, has set the nation on an economic course that cannot possibly have a happy ending.”
July 7th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Durman,
I too recognize Jorge’s and the Republican Leadership’s (Hastert and the like) failure to rein in spending, but it was quite an enjoyable irony to see Pluto hoisted on his own petard……
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