This is Healthcare “Reform”?
By PoliPundit ~ June 16th, 2009 @ 8:51 am
According to the Congressional Budget Office:
•The Democratic plan will cost taxpayers at least $1 trillion;
•The legislation will leave at least 36 million Americans uninsured; and
•The proposal will force at least 23 million Americans to give up the health coverage they currently enjoy.This is reform?
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June 16th, 2009 at 11:26 am
The Big O couldn’t care less what it will cost the American people for him to provide national health care. He is completely ignorant of any form of financial systems except socialism.
Socialism is what he was taught on his grandfather’s knee, socialism was what he studied at Harvard, and socialism is what he practiced in Chicago. He has been taught his entire life that democratic capitalism is the curse of modern society and his miraculous rise from obscurity to the presidency was his reward for being a true believer.
The left pilloried Bush for believing God was on America’s side. They are silent now that Obama believes he is God’s gift to the world.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Joke Leaf isn’t going to like all this negativity!
June 16th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Oak. Do you support Obama’s healthcare plan?
June 16th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Speaking of Oak Leaf. I missed his positive outlook Monday and today as the DOW is down 300 points. It was his great indicator and proof that the US economy was pushing ahead and the recession was over. I’m sure he has a positive take somehow.
June 16th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Poli,
While I appreciate your economic realism in regards to where Obama is taking the Country, JokeLeaf has me logging in to Polipundit now more for the hilarity of the Dem talking points than for the thoughful conservative analysis of others. It is a shame that he has been allowed to co-opt a formerly good/great site. While I can only speak for myself, I thought you had a great thing going here a few years ago……..remember the Sweet 16 ranking all the Presidents and 300+ people would contribute. I’m the fourth contributor about this post and it is all anti-Oak.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
This is beyond socialism it is irresponsibility of the many still employed hard working tax paying law abiding citizens of this country. We are expected to work countless hourless to pay for the “reform” that those in the White House claim they are doing. Why is the fuss so huge over these ridiculous statistics on healthcare? 36 Million Americans don’t have healthcare, why don’t we put it in context and stop throwing out the wrong figures, if we are to do anything to our healthcare system help those who need help, stop worrying about the 18-30 something year olds with no medical illnesses and not a likely history of them, we need to strengthen the system we have lower costs on administration and offer more incentives to hospitals for being more efficient.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
This is beyond socialism it is irresponsibility of our leaders in the face of the many still employed hard working tax paying law abiding citizens of this country. We are expected to work countless hourless to pay for the “reform” that those in the White House claim they are doing. Why is the fuss so huge over these ridiculous statistics on healthcare? 36 Million Americans don’t have healthcare, why don’t we put it in context and stop throwing out the wrong figures, if we are to do anything to our healthcare system help those who need help, stop worrying about the 18-30 something year olds with no medical illnesses and not a likely history of them, we need to strengthen the system we have lower costs on administration and offer more incentives to hospitals for being more efficient.
June 16th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Healthcare and global warming are just the channels they’re using to try to eliminate the Bill of Rights.
Most people with no health insurance made that choice. Children, the poor, the elderly, illegal aliens, and those in prison don’t need private care as the government pays for it with our money. Rich people probably just hire medical corporations…
Most of those who buy insurance do so through their employers. The only ones who suffer are the middle class…
When the middle class is gone, we’ll be just like Zimbabwe…
June 16th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
It’s an uncertain time in my family, we’re losing our group insurance coverage and my son has something that resembles PDD (a slight touch of autism) and as a result, no insurance carrier wants him, unlike the rest of my family that had been accepted for coverage. Would I want the kind of cost/coverage that the government could give me for my son or would I possibly trust them to do what is best for him?
Of course not! What a joke! Still, I’d like something in between outright denial of coverage for him and the other extreme of “shooting a proverbial mosquito with a government mandated howitzer”, making matters worse. There must be ways to somehow facilitate coverage without going to the extreme of inefective government controlled healthcare.
Despite our situation, Obama gets no support for me.
William Wallace will not be bought!
June 17th, 2009 at 8:26 am
It is astonishing to me that people put their ideological devotion over the actual reality. It is the height of cognitive dissonace.
Time and again you hear stories about conservatives who are losing their insurance through no fault of their own demonstrating again and again the system does not work and is inneficient and still they remain steadfast in therir support of it. Why? Because Rush has spent all these years telling you it’s great, and don’t trust your lying eyes? For the life of me I can’t figure it out.
June 17th, 2009 at 10:57 am
GBA,
Do you honestly believe government health care is the way to go in response to failures in the current system of healthcare? The system we have is not perfect and no doubt can be improved – but by the US government, run by your favorite nameless bureacrat? You would trust such an entity? unwise, unreal….
It is the height of congitive dissonance to believe it could be done, and only one with extreme ideological misguided devotion to an all powerful government would even venture to attempt it.
June 17th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
“You would trust such an entity?”
It is not a matter of trust. Conservatives always resort to squishy emotional arguments like that becaues they have nothing of substance to base their deeply held, well-ingrained beliefs on. Mine are based on economics, common sense, empirical evidence and theory. All of those point towards a single payer system as being a big win for everyone. Conservatives keep throwing out anecdotes about someone in england or canada who had to wait a long time for something, but the real story is that better healthcare is avialable cheaper there and other places. Of course, they ignore the anecdotes like yours and the simple fact that the private sector rations healthcare as well.
June 17th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
“Mine are based on economics, common sense, empirical evidence and theory”.
Fine, then let’s see the data. I’m sure Obama will use whatever you come with to prove his point as well. If there is a public health care industry paradise lurking somewhere, as in Cuba say, then let’s see how they do it and what the results have been. Let’s weigh teh merits of public vs private healthcare by all means.
“Conservatives keep throwing out anecdotes about someone in england or canada who had to wait a long time for something…”
Perhaps because they base it on someone’s actual “empirical evidence” of having to wait for such a procedure or treatment? Is there in fact, “health care rationing” in those countries and would you like to experience that? I’m simpy asking…again, show me the facts, and perhaps I could be persuaded.
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:11 am
Hi,
I really appreciate the question which you asked in the blog manner. I do agree with your post. I guess “Durman” said well..
Well said Durman…